Interview September 19th 2014

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Song Interview September 19th 2014
Artist Sopor Æternus & the Ensemble of Shadows
Album Interview September 19TH 2014
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[00:00.000] It's two o'clock in the morning.
[00:02.273] On the Friday the 19th september.
[00:06.673] Ah,2014.
[00:08.839] This is interview for the obskure magazine 23#.
[00:14.651] and the question by Mr.Tassy.
[00:22.139] Question number one:
[00:26.550] You explain on your official site that MITTERNACHT and POETICA work very well together and are "related".
[00:34.602] It reminds me of what you had said to me when POETICA was released,
[00:39.002] the fact that the album was your Poe,
[00:41.664] your connection to Poe.
[00:44.604] Is MITTERNACHT related to POETICA because it is particularly autobiographical?
[00:51.466] AVC:Yes, I think that Poetica and Mitternacht do belong together.
[01:04.290] Well, at least to a certain degree...
[01:06.783] and, yes, Mitternacht is autobiographical ...
[01:13.521] but then again,
[01:14.663] so are all my albums.
[01:15.971] I have always written only about myself,
[01:20.838] I have never done anything else.
[01:23.632] I mean, keep in mind that SOPOR is nothing but self-therapy.
[01:27.755] It has always been. Besides,
[01:33.071] what's the one thing that all aspiring writers are being told?
[01:36.618] To bloody stick to the things that you know ...
[01:39.952] and, well, in my case ...
[01:43.481] the only thing that I truly know and understand ...
[01:47.175] well, sort of, anyway ... is myself. So, yes,
[01:52.116] all my work is entirely autobiographical.
[01:55.189] Including Mitternacht.
[02:00.061] I think another reason why both albums kind of belong together ...
[02:05.571] or, well, maybe not belong together,
[02:07.436] but certainly work well together,
[02:10.466] is because one followed so closely after the other.
[02:16.717] I have said this before,
[02:17.658] but every album is not only a consequence of the one(s) that came before,
[02:26.643] but it's also a preparation of the one(s) to follow.
[02:33.741] The thing about Poetica was ...
[02:40.092] is ... that it ended on a very sad note,
[02:45.177] and I couldn't leave it like that.
[02:51.812] You know, depression may be kind of romantic at the age of 16 ,
[02:57.140] in a twisted sort of way,
[03:00.417] but, believe me,
[03:01.470] it certainly isn't anymore when you have reached my age.
[03:05.884] To tell you the truth,
[03:06.817] I was terrified. I was really afraid.
[03:09.995] I could not leave it like this,
[03:12.869] I could not let this final note linger,
[03:18.891] echo for all eternity,
[03:21.744] without dissolving, re-channling it ...
[03:29.325] because I just couldn't go on like this anymore.
[03:35.731] I could not allow this to be,
[03:39.327] because I felt ... I feared ...
[03:47.281] that it would be the end of me.
[03:49.835] I had to find a solution.
[03:51.897] Quickly.
[03:55.828] Which might also explain why I was under such an enormous pressure ... and why,
[04:05.004] consequently,
[04:07.425] this album was (and still is) so very important to me.
[04:15.458] In fact,
[04:17.659] and that's perhaps a strange thing to say ...
[04:20.526] considering the contents of my past albums ...
[04:26.104] but I can't remember ever having felt such a feeling of urgency about an album.
[04:33.139] Or maybe I have and I just forgot about it,
[04:35.027] which I tend to do. So...
[04:39.082] I know I am repeating myself,
[04:41.545] but ... in my case ...
[04:46.194] there is no separation between life and art.
[04:51.402] And I believe this is true for every artist,
[04:53.793] or every true artist,
[04:54.618] regardless of talent and/or skill ...
[04:57.320] and, really,
[04:58.162] there shouldn't be a separation.
[04:59.481] How can there be?
[05:01.383] Life and art ARE one.
[05:03.567] They are the same thing.
[05:05.928] They influence each other,
[05:07.276] as they are forever intertwined ...
[05:10.359] because they are the same thing.
[05:17.959] So, as I tried to find a solution to my ... umm,
[05:22.358] situation ...
[05:25.916] I encountered something that caused me even greater pain.
[05:30.163] I mean, it was ridiculous.
[05:32.157] There I was hoping to change things for the better,
[05:34.804] but it only got worse.
[05:40.089] I hadn't felt so extremely miserable in a long time.
[05:45.088] There were days when I was crying on my way home ...
[05:50.338] in broad daylight ...
[05:53.307] and those were the good days.
[05:54.853] On others I couldn't even get out of bed.
[06:02.168] But ...
[06:02.655] ...it was all neccessary.
[06:04.835] Again, this may sound strange to some people,
[06:10.976] but ... I am eternally grateful for this.
[06:15.007] I learned things that I not only had never encountered before...
[06:27.872] but that I tought were impossible.
[06:31.304] Yes, it was painful ...
[06:35.450] but it was also very interesting ...
[06:39.430] and very educational.
[06:43.392] Question number two:
[06:46.467] Can you explain the fact that you needed to explore the question of loneliness and the need for companionship at this moment of your life?
[06:58.838] AVC:Umm ... no ... things just ... happened.
[07:06.706] It was meant to happen.
[07:09.696] It was simply time,
[07:11.663] I guess.
[07:14.534] A natural consequence of the things that had happened before.
[07:19.902] I don't wish to appear rude,
[07:21.328] but I really cannot be more specific.
[07:24.885] After all, the details are really nobody's business.
[07:31.241] It's just ... when I left the,
[07:35.840] umm, "other side" (to put it this way) to re-enter the ordinary world,
[07:44.968] which I had abandoned so many years ago,
[07:48.645] I was instantly reminded why I had left in the first place.
[07:53.457] I just didn't belong here,
[07:56.373] I had no part in this.
[07:58.126] No place in it.
[08:02.555] It's one thing to be alone on the other side,
[08:05.591] where there are creatures,
[08:08.138] things, you can surround yourself with ...
[08:11.240] or even create to a certain extend ...
[08:14.969] but being alone in the hostile ordinary world ...
[08:19.077] well, that is different, and I cannot recommend it.
[08:23.999] So, my first reaction was to turn around on the spot and go straight back into darkness,
[08:30.525] but ... I couldn't ... not this time ...
[08:36.403] because that wouldn't have solved anything.
[08:39.442] It would have meant stagnation,
[08:42.329] and, ultimately, death.
[08:46.198] So I kept on walking.
[08:49.570] And that was ... yes,
[08:54.121] almost two years ago now,
[08:56.123] and it's kind of ...
[08:58.853] I hate the word amazing,
[09:01.192] I really do ...
[09:03.501] but, looking at it now,
[09:07.489] that's really the best way to describe it ... umm,
[09:11.303] the things that happend in those two years,
[09:15.919] I honestly would never have guessed could happen.
[09:18.922] I really thought that they would never even be possible.
[09:27.508] number three:
[09:30.849] Where did the idea to record a cover version of ��La Prima Vez�� come from?
[09:39.897] AVC:Oh, the idea?
[09:41.938] Uff, I don't know.
[09:43.391] It just developped,
[09:45.435] as it is with art.
[09:46.938] You know, it grows.
[09:52.045] But what I can tell you where I encountered this song for the first time.
[09:58.359] I was watching Wim Wenders' dance-film PINA,
[10:04.062] and on the songtrack there is a version of that song by ... umm,
[10:07.799] gawd, what's his name ... Logan 5 ...?
[10:14.326] No, wait ... Owain Phyfe ... feifei? ...
[10:24.826] I don't know, whatever his name is pronounced.
[10:30.468] I had never heard it before,
[10:32.314] but I immediately liked it.
[10:34.936] It had a beautiful melody,
[10:36.513] and that's what drew me to it,
[10:38.008] that's what caught my attention ...
[10:40.268] and, as it is often the case with these things.
[10:44.331] Sometimes, you may not neccessarily know what it is at first,
[10:50.675] the thing that attracts your attention.
[10:54.795] Quite often it's entirely subconscious.
[10:56.730] But once you take a closer look at it,
[10:59.385] you see what connects you to it.
[11:03.062] You see the relevance it has for you.
[11:06.813] number four:
[11:10.762] I have to ask you the same question for "Bang Bang"
[11:14.402] why did you chose this song?
[11:18.892] AVC:To be perfectly honest ...
[11:22.008] I cannot remember.
[11:24.255] I really can't remember what gave the impulse ...
[11:29.869] and that is actually a good thing,
[11:31.417] because it means that the problem ...
[11:33.741] or inner conflict,
[11:35.316] if you wish ... has be solved ...
[11:38.284] - dissolved.
[11:43.041] It's a strange song to begin with.
[11:45.354] Silly even in the original.
[11:47.419] I mean, it was written by Sonny Bono ...
[11:51.149] but for whom exactly I don't even know.
[11:53.972] Either Nancy Sinatra or Cher.
[11:57.417] I don't know who came first.
[12:01.612] Iit doesn't really matter,
[12:04.150] anyway. Both versions are great.
[12:05.740] Actually, Cher has many great songs.
[12:09.677] I mean, "Gypsies, tramps & thieves" is fabulous ...
[12:16.458] but, of course, I cannot do that.
[12:17.720] I mean,
[12:18.346] for one the music sounds kind of like SOPOR anyway ...
[12:23.314] to a certain degree,
[12:25.100] so that would be pointless.
[12:26.776] And, let's face it,
[12:29.641] I wasn't born on the waggon of a travelling show.
[12:34.115] Thank goodness for that.
[12:38.483] But back to BANG BANG ...
[12:41.121] yes, it's a bit of a strange song ...
[12:42.636] and, in my case,
[12:44.307] it doesn't just refer to one particular thing or person,
[12:48.987] and even keeps changing perspective.
[12:51.971] It's more about a state of mind,
[12:57.159] if you wish.
[12:59.601] A neurotic notion ... a dependency ...
[13:03.216] the sort of thing I dealt with on the Triptychon of Ghosts.
[13:09.033] The interesting thing for me,
[13:10.719] however, was that initially I thought I would ...
[13:14.086] well, maybe not mock it,
[13:15.664] but be kind of ironic about it.
[13:19.380] Basically like I did it with Bonnie Tyler's "Holding out for a Hero".
[13:25.869] But when I was in the studio I couldn't do it like that.
[13:31.564] I had to do it seriously.
[13:33.903] It was the only way.
[13:36.366] And it makes sense, because there is no irony on the album at all.
[13:40.994] And that's actually a thing that Mitternacht has in common with Poetica.
[13:46.816] number five:
[13:49.915] Do you consider “Confessional” the heart of the album?
[13:57.962] We can understand the chorus,
[13:59.933] the mantra of the song,
[14:01.275] in a lot of different ways.
[14:03.005] Is that a form of supplication?
[14:09.319] AVC:Yes,
[14:10.067] it is the heart of the album ...
[14:11.827] and THANK YOU for recognising ...
[14:15.134] and yes,
[14:16.568] you may very well call it a prayer.
[14:20.755] number six:
[14:24.258] Is the album-title “Mitternacht” a reference to the heart of the night,
[14:29.771] the symbol of the moments when the feeling of loneliness is at its strongest?
[14:37.426] AVC:Yes.
[14:39.566] It's like a Dark Night of the Soul.
[14:45.757] number seven:
[14:47.742] When you sing ?Beautiful?,
[14:49.797] do you think about someone in particular?
[14:53.970] AVC:Sorry, but that I cannot tell you.
[15:01.033] But, it is more than meets the eye ...
[15:05.024] it's a little more complex than it might appear at first glance.
[15:11.578] It seems to be very simple ...
[15:13.464] and it is simply ...
[15:15.523] but it's not one-dimensional.
[15:23.353] number eight:
[15:26.350] You sing in a totally new way on certain songs like ?
[15:32.949] You cannot make him love you? for example.
[15:36.221] Could you tell me more about this experience of the voice recordings of MITTERNACHT?
[15:46.296] AVC:There is nothing to tell, really.
[15:49.509] Recording the vocals was the same as always.
[15:53.377] You're in the studio and then ... you do it.
[15:58.372] If it sounds different than how I usually sound (which I don't actually think it does) it because the song,
[16:09.414] the content, demanded it.
[16:12.898] number nine:
[16:15.965] Do you think that the "quiet" feeling of the album is due to the totally new way that you had to deal with your energy,
[16:22.623] as you explained on your homepage?
[16:26.811] AVC:No, it has nothing to do with that ...
[16:29.170] because I do not write the music in the studio.
[16:31.900] When I go the studio,
[16:33.188] as in when I rent studio time,
[16:35.798] it means that the music is already completed.
[16:38.512] Well, in theory anyway,
[16:40.812] because it obviously still needs to be recorded.
[16:42.433] But the writing is done.
[16:46.422] Though, admittedly,
[16:47.516] it's never written in stone,
[16:50.265] and there is always room for chance ...
[16:54.918] fate, you might call it.
[16:59.197] Sometimes things that suddenly fall into place.
[17:03.707] And then,
[17:07.066] yes, there are the vocals, of course.
[17:08.721] I never know in advance what is going to happen there,
[17:11.833] because ... as you know ...
[17:14.394] there are no rehearsals.
[17:17.761] Would you say...oh question number ten:
[17:23.689] Would you say that this album is "quiet",
[17:26.115] because you are in a quieter moment of your life?
[17:31.860] AVC:Perhaps, yes.
[17:34.677] number eleven:
[17:36.968] Music box and theremin have become an essential part of your music;
[17:42.097] how would you explain this?
[17:44.031] Now, I feel that those instruments are SOPOR AETERNUS��
[17:49.505] AVC:Yes, indeed they are,
[17:50.444] aren't they?!
[17:51.693] I agree.
[17:53.281] I have talked about the theremin (or theremin inspired sound) before,
[18:06.554] as in it being this beautiful bridge between the "cold" synthesizers and the warm violins.
[18:13.559] And, yes,
[18:14.897] there is something quirky and childlike thing about the music-box ...
[18:25.325] and all those percussive pling-plong instruments that keep haunting my albums,
[18:30.812] like the toy piano, for example.
[18:34.571] ......
[18:53.509] When the album was recorded,
[18:56.036] it slowly dawned on me that the damn toypiano is in every bloody song.
[19:02.071] Well, at least on the first half of the album.
[19:04.665] And, admittedly,
[19:07.136] I did worry for a second,
[19:09.191] thinking "have I perhaps overused this?".
[19:13.795] But ...well ...
[19:14.959] there was nothing to be done about it.
[19:16.394] That's just how it was,
[19:20.457] and how it has to be. But then again,
[19:23.952] I always worry.
[19:25.527] I can't help that.
[19:29.190] Twelve.
[19:33.979] Is the perspective of releasing MITTERNACHT harder than it was with the previous albums?
[19:41.829] You explained on your homepage that "it has to be done",
[19:47.396] but the sharing of this work seems particularly delicate for you - why?
[19:55.182] AVC:Because...
[19:59.351] Well, you have to understand that what you hear,
[20:05.325] when you listen to a SOPOR album,
[20:08.440] is not what I hear.
[20:11.840] Remember that the music is like a byproduct,
[20:17.144] a waste product, almost,
[20:19.176] of a psycho-spiritual process and of magical work. What you get is only the end-product.
[20:30.156] Meaning, when you listen to a SOPOR album,
[20:33.619] you only hear the "stories" ...
[20:37.520] whereas when I listen to it,
[20:39.794] I see and re-live all the events that have led to this album.
[20:47.244] So, what I am trying to say is,
[20:49.959] it may very well be that what you hear is just a nice collection of singles with lyrics that may not neccessarily make any sense ...
[21:02.875] whereas for me,
[21:04.344] who has all the keys to its (I almost said "symptoms")...
[21:09.519] to all its symbols,
[21:13.031] it's incredibly intimate and revealing.
[21:18.912] I feel naked and vulnerable.
[21:26.511] Why does it seem more delicate to me this time than with the previous albums?
[21:34.497] Well,
[21:36.103] probably because I actually was naked...
[21:39.791] and wounded.
[00:00.000] It' s two o' clock in the morning.
[00:02.273] On the Friday the 19th september.
[00:06.673] Ah, 2014.
[00:08.839] This is interview for the obskure magazine 23.
[00:14.651] and the question by Mr. Tassy.
[00:22.139] Question number one:
[00:26.550] You explain on your official site that MITTERNACHT and POETICA work very well together and are " related".
[00:34.602] It reminds me of what you had said to me when POETICA was released,
[00:39.002] the fact that the album was your Poe,
[00:41.664] your connection to Poe.
[00:44.604] Is MITTERNACHT related to POETICA because it is particularly autobiographical?
[00:51.466] AVC: Yes, I think that Poetica and Mitternacht do belong together.
[01:04.290] Well, at least to a certain degree...
[01:06.783] and, yes, Mitternacht is autobiographical ...
[01:13.521] but then again,
[01:14.663] so are all my albums.
[01:15.971] I have always written only about myself,
[01:20.838] I have never done anything else.
[01:23.632] I mean, keep in mind that SOPOR is nothing but selftherapy.
[01:27.755] It has always been. Besides,
[01:33.071] what' s the one thing that all aspiring writers are being told?
[01:36.618] To bloody stick to the things that you know ...
[01:39.952] and, well, in my case ...
[01:43.481] the only thing that I truly know and understand ...
[01:47.175] well, sort of, anyway ... is myself. So, yes,
[01:52.116] all my work is entirely autobiographical.
[01:55.189] Including Mitternacht.
[02:00.061] I think another reason why both albums kind of belong together ...
[02:05.571] or, well, maybe not belong together,
[02:07.436] but certainly work well together,
[02:10.466] is because one followed so closely after the other.
[02:16.717] I have said this before,
[02:17.658] but every album is not only a consequence of the one s that came before,
[02:26.643] but it' s also a preparation of the one s to follow.
[02:33.741] The thing about Poetica was ...
[02:40.092] is ... that it ended on a very sad note,
[02:45.177] and I couldn' t leave it like that.
[02:51.812] You know, depression may be kind of romantic at the age of 16 ,
[02:57.140] in a twisted sort of way,
[03:00.417] but, believe me,
[03:01.470] it certainly isn' t anymore when you have reached my age.
[03:05.884] To tell you the truth,
[03:06.817] I was terrified. I was really afraid.
[03:09.995] I could not leave it like this,
[03:12.869] I could not let this final note linger,
[03:18.891] echo for all eternity,
[03:21.744] without dissolving, rechannling it ...
[03:29.325] because I just couldn' t go on like this anymore.
[03:35.731] I could not allow this to be,
[03:39.327] because I felt ... I feared ...
[03:47.281] that it would be the end of me.
[03:49.835] I had to find a solution.
[03:51.897] Quickly.
[03:55.828] Which might also explain why I was under such an enormous pressure ... and why,
[04:05.004] consequently,
[04:07.425] this album was and still is so very important to me.
[04:15.458] In fact,
[04:17.659] and that' s perhaps a strange thing to say ...
[04:20.526] considering the contents of my past albums ...
[04:26.104] but I can' t remember ever having felt such a feeling of urgency about an album.
[04:33.139] Or maybe I have and I just forgot about it,
[04:35.027] which I tend to do. So...
[04:39.082] I know I am repeating myself,
[04:41.545] but ... in my case ...
[04:46.194] there is no separation between life and art.
[04:51.402] And I believe this is true for every artist,
[04:53.793] or every true artist,
[04:54.618] regardless of talent and or skill ...
[04:57.320] and, really,
[04:58.162] there shouldn' t be a separation.
[04:59.481] How can there be?
[05:01.383] Life and art ARE one.
[05:03.567] They are the same thing.
[05:05.928] They influence each other,
[05:07.276] as they are forever intertwined ...
[05:10.359] because they are the same thing.
[05:17.959] So, as I tried to find a solution to my ... umm,
[05:22.358] situation ...
[05:25.916] I encountered something that caused me even greater pain.
[05:30.163] I mean, it was ridiculous.
[05:32.157] There I was hoping to change things for the better,
[05:34.804] but it only got worse.
[05:40.089] I hadn' t felt so extremely miserable in a long time.
[05:45.088] There were days when I was crying on my way home ...
[05:50.338] in broad daylight ...
[05:53.307] and those were the good days.
[05:54.853] On others I couldn' t even get out of bed.
[06:02.168] But ...
[06:02.655] ... it was all neccessary.
[06:04.835] Again, this may sound strange to some people,
[06:10.976] but ... I am eternally grateful for this.
[06:15.007] I learned things that I not only had never encountered before...
[06:27.872] but that I tought were impossible.
[06:31.304] Yes, it was painful ...
[06:35.450] but it was also very interesting ...
[06:39.430] and very educational.
[06:43.392] Question number two:
[06:46.467] Can you explain the fact that you needed to explore the question of loneliness and the need for companionship at this moment of your life?
[06:58.838] AVC: Umm ... no ... things just ... happened.
[07:06.706] It was meant to happen.
[07:09.696] It was simply time,
[07:11.663] I guess.
[07:14.534] A natural consequence of the things that had happened before.
[07:19.902] I don' t wish to appear rude,
[07:21.328] but I really cannot be more specific.
[07:24.885] After all, the details are really nobody' s business.
[07:31.241] It' s just ... when I left the,
[07:35.840] umm, " other side" to put it this way to reenter the ordinary world,
[07:44.968] which I had abandoned so many years ago,
[07:48.645] I was instantly reminded why I had left in the first place.
[07:53.457] I just didn' t belong here,
[07:56.373] I had no part in this.
[07:58.126] No place in it.
[08:02.555] It' s one thing to be alone on the other side,
[08:05.591] where there are creatures,
[08:08.138] things, you can surround yourself with ...
[08:11.240] or even create to a certain extend ...
[08:14.969] but being alone in the hostile ordinary world ...
[08:19.077] well, that is different, and I cannot recommend it.
[08:23.999] So, my first reaction was to turn around on the spot and go straight back into darkness,
[08:30.525] but ... I couldn' t ... not this time ...
[08:36.403] because that wouldn' t have solved anything.
[08:39.442] It would have meant stagnation,
[08:42.329] and, ultimately, death.
[08:46.198] So I kept on walking.
[08:49.570] And that was ... yes,
[08:54.121] almost two years ago now,
[08:56.123] and it' s kind of ...
[08:58.853] I hate the word amazing,
[09:01.192] I really do ...
[09:03.501] but, looking at it now,
[09:07.489] that' s really the best way to describe it ... umm,
[09:11.303] the things that happend in those two years,
[09:15.919] I honestly would never have guessed could happen.
[09:18.922] I really thought that they would never even be possible.
[09:27.508] number three:
[09:30.849] Where did the idea to record a cover version of La Prima Vez come from?
[09:39.897] AVC: Oh, the idea?
[09:41.938] Uff, I don' t know.
[09:43.391] It just developped,
[09:45.435] as it is with art.
[09:46.938] You know, it grows.
[09:52.045] But what I can tell you where I encountered this song for the first time.
[09:58.359] I was watching Wim Wenders' dancefilm PINA,
[10:04.062] and on the songtrack there is a version of that song by ... umm,
[10:07.799] gawd, what' s his name ... Logan 5 ...?
[10:14.326] No, wait ... Owain Phyfe ... feifei? ...
[10:24.826] I don' t know, whatever his name is pronounced.
[10:30.468] I had never heard it before,
[10:32.314] but I immediately liked it.
[10:34.936] It had a beautiful melody,
[10:36.513] and that' s what drew me to it,
[10:38.008] that' s what caught my attention ...
[10:40.268] and, as it is often the case with these things.
[10:44.331] Sometimes, you may not neccessarily know what it is at first,
[10:50.675] the thing that attracts your attention.
[10:54.795] Quite often it' s entirely subconscious.
[10:56.730] But once you take a closer look at it,
[10:59.385] you see what connects you to it.
[11:03.062] You see the relevance it has for you.
[11:06.813] number four:
[11:10.762] I have to ask you the same question for " Bang Bang"
[11:14.402] why did you chose this song?
[11:18.892] AVC: To be perfectly honest ...
[11:22.008] I cannot remember.
[11:24.255] I really can' t remember what gave the impulse ...
[11:29.869] and that is actually a good thing,
[11:31.417] because it means that the problem ...
[11:33.741] or inner conflict,
[11:35.316] if you wish ... has be solved ...
[11:38.284] dissolved.
[11:43.041] It' s a strange song to begin with.
[11:45.354] Silly even in the original.
[11:47.419] I mean, it was written by Sonny Bono ...
[11:51.149] but for whom exactly I don' t even know.
[11:53.972] Either Nancy Sinatra or Cher.
[11:57.417] I don' t know who came first.
[12:01.612] Iit doesn' t really matter,
[12:04.150] anyway. Both versions are great.
[12:05.740] Actually, Cher has many great songs.
[12:09.677] I mean, " Gypsies, tramps thieves" is fabulous ...
[12:16.458] but, of course, I cannot do that.
[12:17.720] I mean,
[12:18.346] for one the music sounds kind of like SOPOR anyway ...
[12:23.314] to a certain degree,
[12:25.100] so that would be pointless.
[12:26.776] And, let' s face it,
[12:29.641] I wasn' t born on the waggon of a travelling show.
[12:34.115] Thank goodness for that.
[12:38.483] But back to BANG BANG ...
[12:41.121] yes, it' s a bit of a strange song ...
[12:42.636] and, in my case,
[12:44.307] it doesn' t just refer to one particular thing or person,
[12:48.987] and even keeps changing perspective.
[12:51.971] It' s more about a state of mind,
[12:57.159] if you wish.
[12:59.601] A neurotic notion ... a dependency ...
[13:03.216] the sort of thing I dealt with on the Triptychon of Ghosts.
[13:09.033] The interesting thing for me,
[13:10.719] however, was that initially I thought I would ...
[13:14.086] well, maybe not mock it,
[13:15.664] but be kind of ironic about it.
[13:19.380] Basically like I did it with Bonnie Tyler' s " Holding out for a Hero".
[13:25.869] But when I was in the studio I couldn' t do it like that.
[13:31.564] I had to do it seriously.
[13:33.903] It was the only way.
[13:36.366] And it makes sense, because there is no irony on the album at all.
[13:40.994] And that' s actually a thing that Mitternacht has in common with Poetica.
[13:46.816] number five:
[13:49.915] Do you consider " Confessional" the heart of the album?
[13:57.962] We can understand the chorus,
[13:59.933] the mantra of the song,
[14:01.275] in a lot of different ways.
[14:03.005] Is that a form of supplication?
[14:09.319] AVC: Yes,
[14:10.067] it is the heart of the album ...
[14:11.827] and THANK YOU for recognising ...
[14:15.134] and yes,
[14:16.568] you may very well call it a prayer.
[14:20.755] number six:
[14:24.258] Is the albumtitle " Mitternacht" a reference to the heart of the night,
[14:29.771] the symbol of the moments when the feeling of loneliness is at its strongest?
[14:37.426] AVC: Yes.
[14:39.566] It' s like a Dark Night of the Soul.
[14:45.757] number seven:
[14:47.742] When you sing ? Beautiful?,
[14:49.797] do you think about someone in particular?
[14:53.970] AVC: Sorry, but that I cannot tell you.
[15:01.033] But, it is more than meets the eye ...
[15:05.024] it' s a little more complex than it might appear at first glance.
[15:11.578] It seems to be very simple ...
[15:13.464] and it is simply ...
[15:15.523] but it' s not onedimensional.
[15:23.353] number eight:
[15:26.350] You sing in a totally new way on certain songs like ?
[15:32.949] You cannot make him love you? for example.
[15:36.221] Could you tell me more about this experience of the voice recordings of MITTERNACHT?
[15:46.296] AVC: There is nothing to tell, really.
[15:49.509] Recording the vocals was the same as always.
[15:53.377] You' re in the studio and then ... you do it.
[15:58.372] If it sounds different than how I usually sound which I don' t actually think it does it because the song,
[16:09.414] the content, demanded it.
[16:12.898] number nine:
[16:15.965] Do you think that the " quiet" feeling of the album is due to the totally new way that you had to deal with your energy,
[16:22.623] as you explained on your homepage?
[16:26.811] AVC: No, it has nothing to do with that ...
[16:29.170] because I do not write the music in the studio.
[16:31.900] When I go the studio,
[16:33.188] as in when I rent studio time,
[16:35.798] it means that the music is already completed.
[16:38.512] Well, in theory anyway,
[16:40.812] because it obviously still needs to be recorded.
[16:42.433] But the writing is done.
[16:46.422] Though, admittedly,
[16:47.516] it' s never written in stone,
[16:50.265] and there is always room for chance ...
[16:54.918] fate, you might call it.
[16:59.197] Sometimes things that suddenly fall into place.
[17:03.707] And then,
[17:07.066] yes, there are the vocals, of course.
[17:08.721] I never know in advance what is going to happen there,
[17:11.833] because ... as you know ...
[17:14.394] there are no rehearsals.
[17:17.761] Would you say... oh question number ten:
[17:23.689] Would you say that this album is " quiet",
[17:26.115] because you are in a quieter moment of your life?
[17:31.860] AVC: Perhaps, yes.
[17:34.677] number eleven:
[17:36.968] Music box and theremin have become an essential part of your music
[17:42.097] how would you explain this?
[17:44.031] Now, I feel that those instruments are SOPOR AETERNUS
[17:49.505] AVC: Yes, indeed they are,
[17:50.444] aren' t they?!
[17:51.693] I agree.
[17:53.281] I have talked about the theremin or theremin inspired sound before,
[18:06.554] as in it being this beautiful bridge between the " cold" synthesizers and the warm violins.
[18:13.559] And, yes,
[18:14.897] there is something quirky and childlike thing about the musicbox ...
[18:25.325] and all those percussive plingplong instruments that keep haunting my albums,
[18:30.812] like the toy piano, for example.
[18:34.571] ......
[18:53.509] When the album was recorded,
[18:56.036] it slowly dawned on me that the damn toypiano is in every bloody song.
[19:02.071] Well, at least on the first half of the album.
[19:04.665] And, admittedly,
[19:07.136] I did worry for a second,
[19:09.191] thinking " have I perhaps overused this?".
[19:13.795] But ... well ...
[19:14.959] there was nothing to be done about it.
[19:16.394] That' s just how it was,
[19:20.457] and how it has to be. But then again,
[19:23.952] I always worry.
[19:25.527] I can' t help that.
[19:29.190] Twelve.
[19:33.979] Is the perspective of releasing MITTERNACHT harder than it was with the previous albums?
[19:41.829] You explained on your homepage that " it has to be done",
[19:47.396] but the sharing of this work seems particularly delicate for you why?
[19:55.182] AVC: Because...
[19:59.351] Well, you have to understand that what you hear,
[20:05.325] when you listen to a SOPOR album,
[20:08.440] is not what I hear.
[20:11.840] Remember that the music is like a byproduct,
[20:17.144] a waste product, almost,
[20:19.176] of a psychospiritual process and of magical work. What you get is only the endproduct.
[20:30.156] Meaning, when you listen to a SOPOR album,
[20:33.619] you only hear the " stories" ...
[20:37.520] whereas when I listen to it,
[20:39.794] I see and relive all the events that have led to this album.
[20:47.244] So, what I am trying to say is,
[20:49.959] it may very well be that what you hear is just a nice collection of singles with lyrics that may not neccessarily make any sense ...
[21:02.875] whereas for me,
[21:04.344] who has all the keys to its I almost said " symptoms"...
[21:09.519] to all its symbols,
[21:13.031] it' s incredibly intimate and revealing.
[21:18.912] I feel naked and vulnerable.
[21:26.511] Why does it seem more delicate to me this time than with the previous albums?
[21:34.497] Well,
[21:36.103] probably because I actually was naked...
[21:39.791] and wounded.
[00:00.000] It' s two o' clock in the morning.
[00:02.273] On the Friday the 19th september.
[00:06.673] Ah, 2014.
[00:08.839] This is interview for the obskure magazine 23.
[00:14.651] and the question by Mr. Tassy.
[00:22.139] Question number one:
[00:26.550] You explain on your official site that MITTERNACHT and POETICA work very well together and are " related".
[00:34.602] It reminds me of what you had said to me when POETICA was released,
[00:39.002] the fact that the album was your Poe,
[00:41.664] your connection to Poe.
[00:44.604] Is MITTERNACHT related to POETICA because it is particularly autobiographical?
[00:51.466] AVC: Yes, I think that Poetica and Mitternacht do belong together.
[01:04.290] Well, at least to a certain degree...
[01:06.783] and, yes, Mitternacht is autobiographical ...
[01:13.521] but then again,
[01:14.663] so are all my albums.
[01:15.971] I have always written only about myself,
[01:20.838] I have never done anything else.
[01:23.632] I mean, keep in mind that SOPOR is nothing but selftherapy.
[01:27.755] It has always been. Besides,
[01:33.071] what' s the one thing that all aspiring writers are being told?
[01:36.618] To bloody stick to the things that you know ...
[01:39.952] and, well, in my case ...
[01:43.481] the only thing that I truly know and understand ...
[01:47.175] well, sort of, anyway ... is myself. So, yes,
[01:52.116] all my work is entirely autobiographical.
[01:55.189] Including Mitternacht.
[02:00.061] I think another reason why both albums kind of belong together ...
[02:05.571] or, well, maybe not belong together,
[02:07.436] but certainly work well together,
[02:10.466] is because one followed so closely after the other.
[02:16.717] I have said this before,
[02:17.658] but every album is not only a consequence of the one s that came before,
[02:26.643] but it' s also a preparation of the one s to follow.
[02:33.741] The thing about Poetica was ...
[02:40.092] is ... that it ended on a very sad note,
[02:45.177] and I couldn' t leave it like that.
[02:51.812] You know, depression may be kind of romantic at the age of 16 ,
[02:57.140] in a twisted sort of way,
[03:00.417] but, believe me,
[03:01.470] it certainly isn' t anymore when you have reached my age.
[03:05.884] To tell you the truth,
[03:06.817] I was terrified. I was really afraid.
[03:09.995] I could not leave it like this,
[03:12.869] I could not let this final note linger,
[03:18.891] echo for all eternity,
[03:21.744] without dissolving, rechannling it ...
[03:29.325] because I just couldn' t go on like this anymore.
[03:35.731] I could not allow this to be,
[03:39.327] because I felt ... I feared ...
[03:47.281] that it would be the end of me.
[03:49.835] I had to find a solution.
[03:51.897] Quickly.
[03:55.828] Which might also explain why I was under such an enormous pressure ... and why,
[04:05.004] consequently,
[04:07.425] this album was and still is so very important to me.
[04:15.458] In fact,
[04:17.659] and that' s perhaps a strange thing to say ...
[04:20.526] considering the contents of my past albums ...
[04:26.104] but I can' t remember ever having felt such a feeling of urgency about an album.
[04:33.139] Or maybe I have and I just forgot about it,
[04:35.027] which I tend to do. So...
[04:39.082] I know I am repeating myself,
[04:41.545] but ... in my case ...
[04:46.194] there is no separation between life and art.
[04:51.402] And I believe this is true for every artist,
[04:53.793] or every true artist,
[04:54.618] regardless of talent and or skill ...
[04:57.320] and, really,
[04:58.162] there shouldn' t be a separation.
[04:59.481] How can there be?
[05:01.383] Life and art ARE one.
[05:03.567] They are the same thing.
[05:05.928] They influence each other,
[05:07.276] as they are forever intertwined ...
[05:10.359] because they are the same thing.
[05:17.959] So, as I tried to find a solution to my ... umm,
[05:22.358] situation ...
[05:25.916] I encountered something that caused me even greater pain.
[05:30.163] I mean, it was ridiculous.
[05:32.157] There I was hoping to change things for the better,
[05:34.804] but it only got worse.
[05:40.089] I hadn' t felt so extremely miserable in a long time.
[05:45.088] There were days when I was crying on my way home ...
[05:50.338] in broad daylight ...
[05:53.307] and those were the good days.
[05:54.853] On others I couldn' t even get out of bed.
[06:02.168] But ...
[06:02.655] ... it was all neccessary.
[06:04.835] Again, this may sound strange to some people,
[06:10.976] but ... I am eternally grateful for this.
[06:15.007] I learned things that I not only had never encountered before...
[06:27.872] but that I tought were impossible.
[06:31.304] Yes, it was painful ...
[06:35.450] but it was also very interesting ...
[06:39.430] and very educational.
[06:43.392] Question number two:
[06:46.467] Can you explain the fact that you needed to explore the question of loneliness and the need for companionship at this moment of your life?
[06:58.838] AVC: Umm ... no ... things just ... happened.
[07:06.706] It was meant to happen.
[07:09.696] It was simply time,
[07:11.663] I guess.
[07:14.534] A natural consequence of the things that had happened before.
[07:19.902] I don' t wish to appear rude,
[07:21.328] but I really cannot be more specific.
[07:24.885] After all, the details are really nobody' s business.
[07:31.241] It' s just ... when I left the,
[07:35.840] umm, " other side" to put it this way to reenter the ordinary world,
[07:44.968] which I had abandoned so many years ago,
[07:48.645] I was instantly reminded why I had left in the first place.
[07:53.457] I just didn' t belong here,
[07:56.373] I had no part in this.
[07:58.126] No place in it.
[08:02.555] It' s one thing to be alone on the other side,
[08:05.591] where there are creatures,
[08:08.138] things, you can surround yourself with ...
[08:11.240] or even create to a certain extend ...
[08:14.969] but being alone in the hostile ordinary world ...
[08:19.077] well, that is different, and I cannot recommend it.
[08:23.999] So, my first reaction was to turn around on the spot and go straight back into darkness,
[08:30.525] but ... I couldn' t ... not this time ...
[08:36.403] because that wouldn' t have solved anything.
[08:39.442] It would have meant stagnation,
[08:42.329] and, ultimately, death.
[08:46.198] So I kept on walking.
[08:49.570] And that was ... yes,
[08:54.121] almost two years ago now,
[08:56.123] and it' s kind of ...
[08:58.853] I hate the word amazing,
[09:01.192] I really do ...
[09:03.501] but, looking at it now,
[09:07.489] that' s really the best way to describe it ... umm,
[09:11.303] the things that happend in those two years,
[09:15.919] I honestly would never have guessed could happen.
[09:18.922] I really thought that they would never even be possible.
[09:27.508] number three:
[09:30.849] Where did the idea to record a cover version of La Prima Vez come from?
[09:39.897] AVC: Oh, the idea?
[09:41.938] Uff, I don' t know.
[09:43.391] It just developped,
[09:45.435] as it is with art.
[09:46.938] You know, it grows.
[09:52.045] But what I can tell you where I encountered this song for the first time.
[09:58.359] I was watching Wim Wenders' dancefilm PINA,
[10:04.062] and on the songtrack there is a version of that song by ... umm,
[10:07.799] gawd, what' s his name ... Logan 5 ...?
[10:14.326] No, wait ... Owain Phyfe ... feifei? ...
[10:24.826] I don' t know, whatever his name is pronounced.
[10:30.468] I had never heard it before,
[10:32.314] but I immediately liked it.
[10:34.936] It had a beautiful melody,
[10:36.513] and that' s what drew me to it,
[10:38.008] that' s what caught my attention ...
[10:40.268] and, as it is often the case with these things.
[10:44.331] Sometimes, you may not neccessarily know what it is at first,
[10:50.675] the thing that attracts your attention.
[10:54.795] Quite often it' s entirely subconscious.
[10:56.730] But once you take a closer look at it,
[10:59.385] you see what connects you to it.
[11:03.062] You see the relevance it has for you.
[11:06.813] number four:
[11:10.762] I have to ask you the same question for " Bang Bang"
[11:14.402] why did you chose this song?
[11:18.892] AVC: To be perfectly honest ...
[11:22.008] I cannot remember.
[11:24.255] I really can' t remember what gave the impulse ...
[11:29.869] and that is actually a good thing,
[11:31.417] because it means that the problem ...
[11:33.741] or inner conflict,
[11:35.316] if you wish ... has be solved ...
[11:38.284] dissolved.
[11:43.041] It' s a strange song to begin with.
[11:45.354] Silly even in the original.
[11:47.419] I mean, it was written by Sonny Bono ...
[11:51.149] but for whom exactly I don' t even know.
[11:53.972] Either Nancy Sinatra or Cher.
[11:57.417] I don' t know who came first.
[12:01.612] Iit doesn' t really matter,
[12:04.150] anyway. Both versions are great.
[12:05.740] Actually, Cher has many great songs.
[12:09.677] I mean, " Gypsies, tramps thieves" is fabulous ...
[12:16.458] but, of course, I cannot do that.
[12:17.720] I mean,
[12:18.346] for one the music sounds kind of like SOPOR anyway ...
[12:23.314] to a certain degree,
[12:25.100] so that would be pointless.
[12:26.776] And, let' s face it,
[12:29.641] I wasn' t born on the waggon of a travelling show.
[12:34.115] Thank goodness for that.
[12:38.483] But back to BANG BANG ...
[12:41.121] yes, it' s a bit of a strange song ...
[12:42.636] and, in my case,
[12:44.307] it doesn' t just refer to one particular thing or person,
[12:48.987] and even keeps changing perspective.
[12:51.971] It' s more about a state of mind,
[12:57.159] if you wish.
[12:59.601] A neurotic notion ... a dependency ...
[13:03.216] the sort of thing I dealt with on the Triptychon of Ghosts.
[13:09.033] The interesting thing for me,
[13:10.719] however, was that initially I thought I would ...
[13:14.086] well, maybe not mock it,
[13:15.664] but be kind of ironic about it.
[13:19.380] Basically like I did it with Bonnie Tyler' s " Holding out for a Hero".
[13:25.869] But when I was in the studio I couldn' t do it like that.
[13:31.564] I had to do it seriously.
[13:33.903] It was the only way.
[13:36.366] And it makes sense, because there is no irony on the album at all.
[13:40.994] And that' s actually a thing that Mitternacht has in common with Poetica.
[13:46.816] number five:
[13:49.915] Do you consider " Confessional" the heart of the album?
[13:57.962] We can understand the chorus,
[13:59.933] the mantra of the song,
[14:01.275] in a lot of different ways.
[14:03.005] Is that a form of supplication?
[14:09.319] AVC: Yes,
[14:10.067] it is the heart of the album ...
[14:11.827] and THANK YOU for recognising ...
[14:15.134] and yes,
[14:16.568] you may very well call it a prayer.
[14:20.755] number six:
[14:24.258] Is the albumtitle " Mitternacht" a reference to the heart of the night,
[14:29.771] the symbol of the moments when the feeling of loneliness is at its strongest?
[14:37.426] AVC: Yes.
[14:39.566] It' s like a Dark Night of the Soul.
[14:45.757] number seven:
[14:47.742] When you sing ? Beautiful?,
[14:49.797] do you think about someone in particular?
[14:53.970] AVC: Sorry, but that I cannot tell you.
[15:01.033] But, it is more than meets the eye ...
[15:05.024] it' s a little more complex than it might appear at first glance.
[15:11.578] It seems to be very simple ...
[15:13.464] and it is simply ...
[15:15.523] but it' s not onedimensional.
[15:23.353] number eight:
[15:26.350] You sing in a totally new way on certain songs like ?
[15:32.949] You cannot make him love you? for example.
[15:36.221] Could you tell me more about this experience of the voice recordings of MITTERNACHT?
[15:46.296] AVC: There is nothing to tell, really.
[15:49.509] Recording the vocals was the same as always.
[15:53.377] You' re in the studio and then ... you do it.
[15:58.372] If it sounds different than how I usually sound which I don' t actually think it does it because the song,
[16:09.414] the content, demanded it.
[16:12.898] number nine:
[16:15.965] Do you think that the " quiet" feeling of the album is due to the totally new way that you had to deal with your energy,
[16:22.623] as you explained on your homepage?
[16:26.811] AVC: No, it has nothing to do with that ...
[16:29.170] because I do not write the music in the studio.
[16:31.900] When I go the studio,
[16:33.188] as in when I rent studio time,
[16:35.798] it means that the music is already completed.
[16:38.512] Well, in theory anyway,
[16:40.812] because it obviously still needs to be recorded.
[16:42.433] But the writing is done.
[16:46.422] Though, admittedly,
[16:47.516] it' s never written in stone,
[16:50.265] and there is always room for chance ...
[16:54.918] fate, you might call it.
[16:59.197] Sometimes things that suddenly fall into place.
[17:03.707] And then,
[17:07.066] yes, there are the vocals, of course.
[17:08.721] I never know in advance what is going to happen there,
[17:11.833] because ... as you know ...
[17:14.394] there are no rehearsals.
[17:17.761] Would you say... oh question number ten:
[17:23.689] Would you say that this album is " quiet",
[17:26.115] because you are in a quieter moment of your life?
[17:31.860] AVC: Perhaps, yes.
[17:34.677] number eleven:
[17:36.968] Music box and theremin have become an essential part of your music
[17:42.097] how would you explain this?
[17:44.031] Now, I feel that those instruments are SOPOR AETERNUS
[17:49.505] AVC: Yes, indeed they are,
[17:50.444] aren' t they?!
[17:51.693] I agree.
[17:53.281] I have talked about the theremin or theremin inspired sound before,
[18:06.554] as in it being this beautiful bridge between the " cold" synthesizers and the warm violins.
[18:13.559] And, yes,
[18:14.897] there is something quirky and childlike thing about the musicbox ...
[18:25.325] and all those percussive plingplong instruments that keep haunting my albums,
[18:30.812] like the toy piano, for example.
[18:34.571] ......
[18:53.509] When the album was recorded,
[18:56.036] it slowly dawned on me that the damn toypiano is in every bloody song.
[19:02.071] Well, at least on the first half of the album.
[19:04.665] And, admittedly,
[19:07.136] I did worry for a second,
[19:09.191] thinking " have I perhaps overused this?".
[19:13.795] But ... well ...
[19:14.959] there was nothing to be done about it.
[19:16.394] That' s just how it was,
[19:20.457] and how it has to be. But then again,
[19:23.952] I always worry.
[19:25.527] I can' t help that.
[19:29.190] Twelve.
[19:33.979] Is the perspective of releasing MITTERNACHT harder than it was with the previous albums?
[19:41.829] You explained on your homepage that " it has to be done",
[19:47.396] but the sharing of this work seems particularly delicate for you why?
[19:55.182] AVC: Because...
[19:59.351] Well, you have to understand that what you hear,
[20:05.325] when you listen to a SOPOR album,
[20:08.440] is not what I hear.
[20:11.840] Remember that the music is like a byproduct,
[20:17.144] a waste product, almost,
[20:19.176] of a psychospiritual process and of magical work. What you get is only the endproduct.
[20:30.156] Meaning, when you listen to a SOPOR album,
[20:33.619] you only hear the " stories" ...
[20:37.520] whereas when I listen to it,
[20:39.794] I see and relive all the events that have led to this album.
[20:47.244] So, what I am trying to say is,
[20:49.959] it may very well be that what you hear is just a nice collection of singles with lyrics that may not neccessarily make any sense ...
[21:02.875] whereas for me,
[21:04.344] who has all the keys to its I almost said " symptoms"...
[21:09.519] to all its symbols,
[21:13.031] it' s incredibly intimate and revealing.
[21:18.912] I feel naked and vulnerable.
[21:26.511] Why does it seem more delicate to me this time than with the previous albums?
[21:34.497] Well,
[21:36.103] probably because I actually was naked...
[21:39.791] and wounded.
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