[ti:14] [ar:14] [00:04.748]Welcome to the StoryCorps podcast.Often at StoryCorps people come into our recording booth and ask big questions.That ’s what 11-year-old Sam Goetz did when he talked with his mom P.J.in Tampa.He asked about the meeting that shaped both of their lives. [00:32.683]"How did you meet dad?” [00:35.559]"Well,you know that my mom dead when I was seven.” [00:38.371]"Yes.” [00:47.875]"And you know that I was on my own when I was 16,so what I did and what you get to do are gonna be two different things,because …” [00:50.375]"Right,I always have somebody looking out for me,like you,dad and pretty much everybody else in our family.” [00:52.623]"So,I was 18years old and,um,I had a fake ID,and I was at this bar …" [00:55.869]"You had a fake ID.” [00:57.431]"Uh-huh,oh my goodness,I can't believe I'm telling you this.And I was sitting at this barstool,and your dad sat down,and I said to your dad,I said 'there ’s somebody sitting there.'And he said ‘I don ’t care;I just have to meet you.’And he made me laugh,and that's what I needed right then -I needed to laugh a little.We talked for about four hours,and then he walked me out to my car,but he never asked me for my phone number,and I got home that night I was writing in my diary ‘very good-looking,but insecure.’ [01:24.990]The next day,I was on my couch watching some afternoon TV,folding laundry,and I had told dad what apartment complex I lived in,but I didn't tell him what apartment or where I lived.So he drove me into the apartment complex and just laid his hand on the horn.” [01:42.242](Sam ’s laughter) [01:42.992]"And he just was driving through the complex,and I went out on my balcony,and I saw him,and I said,'Oh my God,that's that guy from the bar last night,'and he was like,'Oh,hi,there you are,I've been looking for you!'And that's the way he found me.” [01:56.681]"Over the best times and the worst times in marriage,did you ever think of getting divorced?” [02:02.365]"You know over the years,I have thought about getting divorced,me and your dad were separated once for two years,but we got back together,and we never did get divorced,we came close a couple of times during that time.” [02:13.617]"I remember like,you ’re like yelling,and you said ‘You want me to leave with the children ’,I was like,in my bed and I just heard that.” [02:20.869]"I ’m sorry you had to hear that sweetie.Marriage isn't always pretty.I think sometimes we act like little children,and we need to be more mature about it,because it's a privilege to be married to somebody,and you need not to disrespect it like that,like sometimes we get angry,and we do.But we bound together for 23years now,and I think your dad has taught me the meaning of love. [02:40.429]Love is as much a feeling as it is an action.You see what I ’m saying?” [02:46.114]"I see what you are saying.” [02:51.300]"To love somebody is not just how you feel about them,but what you do,also."