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Q: John Lennon and Paul McCartney , |
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What do you think is the one single thing |
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that most contributed to your phenomenal, |
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unprecedented success in the past 8 or 9 years? Any single thing?" |
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JOHN: " Umm, God?" |
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PAUL: " I' ll go along with that." |
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Q: " So much has been said that you started a trend, |
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and that the trend that exists today |
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this whole psychedelic mixedmedia world..." PAUL JOHN: laugh |
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Q: "... kind of goes back to the early days |
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when you embarked on that, some have said, rockstrewn path." |
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JOHN: " We' re just part of it, whatever it is." |
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PAUL: " We didn' t set that one. We' re just rolling along with it." |
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JOHN: " But we' re part of it, you know." |
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Q: " But you were so much ahead, though, as so many have said." |
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JOHN: " To a degree. There' s always somebody a bit ahead." |
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Q: " What led you down that road in the first place? |
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What brought you into that medium?" |
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PAUL: " Progress. Just natural progress as things change. |
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You know, they just keep changing. You can' t help it. |
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And we just laughs kept along with them as they kept changing... |
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And here we are!" |
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Q: " The millions of young people that now are grown up, |
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I suppose, had started out with you a few years ago. |
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They' ve been affected, it' s said, by what you' ve done, |
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deeply and permanently. |
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Do you think this is true?" |
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JOHN: " Yeah, in some cases that will be true." |
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PAUL: " Yeah, and it goes for us, too. |
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We' ve been affected by them." |
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JOHN: " I tell ya, I' m permanently affected by Elvis Presley... |
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Permanently affected by whoever it is you' re affected by." |
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PAUL: jokingly "... scars to prove it." |
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Q: " Going back again to the early 1960' s |
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when you first achieved your outstanding success. |
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Things were very different in the world then |
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the world of popular music and the world of youth, |
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weren' t they, than they are today." |
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JOHN: " It' s gonna be... It' s just change, you know. |
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Everything changes. |
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EVERYTHING was different then, |
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so there' s no sort of specifics about it. |
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The whole thing' s continually changing. |
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So we can' t really comment on why one particular man |
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had better white trousers on in 1933. |
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There' s nothing to say about it, but it happened." |
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PAUL: jokingly to John " Wrap up adlib! Close to script!" |
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Q: " Yeah, we should go back to ' copy' now." laughter |
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Q: " But changes that did occur in those years... |
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How would you describe the kind of change? |
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Was it the waking of a sleeping giant? |
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We talk about young people, |
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and we talk about the fact that so much has awakened |
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on the scene of life for young people." |
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PAUL: " You know I mean, none of us know what it is. |
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I don' t think anyone knows what it is. |
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And it' s just... it' s life, you know. |
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You appear to grow up, |
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and we started off in leather jackets chinging away on guitars. |
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And it went through a lot of phases until it got here. |
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You know, and that' s all we can say about it. |
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I don' t know what happened. laughs |
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You can' t say exactly what went on." JOHN: " How can you say?" |
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Q: " Do you think that seven, eight, nine, ten years ago, |
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that young people were less awake?" |
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JOHN: " I think they' re becoming more aware each generation. |
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I don' t know whether it' ll end at some point |
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and go back to the start. |
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But it seems to be going that way more aware." |
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Q: " More new experiences all the time?" |
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JOHN: " Well of course." |
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PAUL: " More aware, but no one' s quite sure |
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what it is that they' re aware of. |
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But they' re aware of it laughing whatever it is. |
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pause You know, it' s one of those things |
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you can' t talk about because it gets into things |
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you can' t put your finger on. |
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to himself Wrap up adlib. Close to script." |
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Q: " A lot of older people seem to feel that the young people today, |
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as I suppose older people always felt, |
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are always rebelling against the older generation. |
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But that this rebellion has gone so much further than other rebellions." |
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JOHN: " Yes." PAUL: " Yeah." |
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JOHN: " What will the next one be like, you know." |
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Q: " They' ll rebell against you." |
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JOHN: " Depending on what we turn into." |
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Q: " What are you going to turn into?" |
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JOHN: " Well, if we stay like we are now it mightn' t be bad. |
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But we should progress and be able to still communicate with kids |
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if this change is as important as it might be. |
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But if it isn' t, it' s just the same again. comically, to the announcer What' s yours?" |
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Q: " That' s a good question. pause |
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But as you leave the 20' s... How soon will that be for both of you?" |
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JOHN: " I' m 27." |
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PAUL: " 25." |
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Q: " You still have a ways to go, |
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but you talk about yourselves as gray old men in a sense, |
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compared to those years ago." |
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JOHN: giggles " It' s only the way you' re hearing it." laughter |
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Q: " You' ve made so much money |
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and you' ve achieved so much success so early. |
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Does this worry you?" |
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JOHN: " It' s not a worry, it' s just... |
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It saved us wasting our lives achieving it." |
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PAUL: " Yeah. Our thing just happens to be |
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very condensed and speeded. It' s speeded up..." |
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JOHN: " We chose a modern form of success." |
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PAUL: "... very quick, because one second we were just there |
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doing ' that' with ' that much' money. |
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The next second... people normally take a lifetime to do... |
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it was just all there suddenly, just handed. |
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And we didn' t have to do anything for it." |
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JOHN: " Except for work, you know." |
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PAUL: " We had to work and do songs and make records, |
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and that, but it didn' t feel like anything to us. |
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And so, that' s incredible, that. |
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' Cuz it makes you think. laughs |
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It also makes you rich." |
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JOHN: " It' s a way of doing it. |
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There' s lots of careers to choose. |
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And you choose one... |
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Everybody wants to get something, |
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or make something one way or another. |
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And we chose a modern way of making it... and the socalled? relative making it, money and cars |
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because obviously we didn' t want to spend out lives to get to nowhere." |
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PAUL: " It' s like, if you could take a pill to just get famous and rich, |
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a lot of people would. And ours was a bit like that." |
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Q: " Was this what you really wanted to do it for |
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... you wanted to get rich?" PAUL JOHN: " Yeah." |
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JOHN: " You just want to ' make it' whatever you do. |
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You all set out leaving school or whatever, and you want to make it. |
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So you choose your field, and you make it or you don' t. |
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But MAKE IT, that isn' t it because there' s nothing to MAKE. |
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So we were in the position to find out it' s not worth spending your life looking... trying to get cars and kid gloves." |
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Q: " Has the fun gone out of your musical career |
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now that you' ve made so much money?" PAUL JOHN: " No." JOHN: " Nothing like that." |
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PAUL: " You see, you' re asking questions which are quite serious... |
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and you' re not asking us, uhh you know, |
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where we get our hair cut. |
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You can' t expect all these sort of happy answers |
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when you' re asking serious questions." JOHN: " You want the answers. |
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Well, we' re giving you the answer, you know." PAUL: " As we see it." |
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PAUL: jokingly " It isn' t very clearly..." |
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Q: " Of course it' s unclear... Now that you have this tremendous influence, |
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which you obviously have all over the world, |
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do you have a particular feeling about what you want to do with this power?" |
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JOHN: " Just, whatever it is, to try and channel it for GOOD... |
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if we can, you know. |
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That' s the only point of doing anything. |
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So we' ve got this machine, |
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and we' ll try and make use of it, for good, |
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and not just to have a machine." |
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PAUL: " You know, you' ve got your life and you' re faced with choices in it. |
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And for us being suddenly rich and famous, |
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and in a position to do something, |
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we' ve got a choice of doing either what most people do, |
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which is just making more and more money, |
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and getting more and more rich and famous... |
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or trying to DO something which will help. |
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And it sounds a bit like charity, but it' s obviously the one we' ve chosen ' cuz it' s just better. |
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And it just might be in the long run..." |
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JOHN: " Might be good." |
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PAUL: " Might be good." |
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Q: " Let' s stick with the young people and the areas that you think are most fruitful to try to help in. |
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I asked before, where you thought young people were going, |
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and you said well maybe there' ll be a reaction to what they have now. |
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How does this relate to the real world as you see it... |
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to issues of war and peace, family and country? |
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JOHN: " All issues are relative. So it relates like that. |
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It' s all just relative to each other. |
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War pause and vegetables. |
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' Cuz there' s relativity and absolute. |
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And that' s how it relates, you know." |
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PAUL: chuckles " Great, Johnny." |
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Q: " It' s kind of hard though for some people to interpret you." |
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JOHN: " Well, if they can' t interpret it, maybe they will later... |
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or come to their own conclusions. |
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But that' s the way I think it is." |
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PAUL: to John " But what do you think about the young people?" |
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JOHN: " Well... I think they' re young, you know, |
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and trying to find out. That' s all." |
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PAUL: " They seem to be trying to stop wars, and that. " |
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JOHN: "... which is beautiful." |
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PAUL: " It just looks as though everyone is trying to stop all that killing, and all that fighting." |
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JOHN: " It' s a good idea." |
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PAUL: " It sounds good. It may be just silly to try, but it may be good!" |
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Q: " It may not work." PAUL AND JOHN: quiet chuckle |
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Q: " The word ' anarchy' has been used to describe some of the..." |
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JONH: " Well I mean, there always will be that element because, |
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when they see it as how they see it to become an anarchist, |
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it' s ' What can we do about all that?' |
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I mean, what can you do really but wear a badge or stand up and shout. |
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So the choice is about shouting or ' let it roll.' |
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But they' re a group of people who will go on forever, |
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but they don' t actually do anything." |
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PAUL: " Everyone needs someone to say ' This is how you do it. |
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This is what we want you to do,' you know. |
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The thing is, it would be great if we knew how you do it. |
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We make guesses, but they' re not always right. |
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They' re often wrong, in fact. |
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It' d be great if we knew what it is you do |
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Cuz we are in a good position, |
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just to say to all the people who want to know how you do it. |
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Cuz there are so many phony institusions saying |
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' And this is how you do it!' |
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Nobody can believe them anymore. |
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So it would be nice for people, |
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for someone to just come along and say..." |
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JOHN: " Well, it would have to be Jesus, or Buddha or something." |
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PAUL: " Yeah." |
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JOHN: " But they don' t seem to be around at the moment." |
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Q: " The whole idea of whether you get involved or whether you stay out of it Whether you' re turned on or turned off. |
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How do you feel about that?" |
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JOHN: " We believe you should turn on and stay in. |
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Change it, you know." |
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PAUL: jokingly " Drop in... sometime." |
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Q: " When you get involved, do you mean getting involved in the establishment and institutions?" |
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JOHN: " Well, to change it... |
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because unless you change it, it' s going to be there forever. |
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So the only thing to do is to try and change it... |
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but not replace it with another set of Harris Tweed suits. |
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And just change it completely. |
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But how you do that, we don' t know." |
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PAUL: " There' s a lot of ways, |
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but the one we' ve decided on at the moment |
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is just to try and get into a business, |
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so that we can go to ' them,' you know, |
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all those big bosses in all those big companies, |
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and talk to them as though we' re..." laughs |
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PAUL JOHN: "... one of them!" |
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JOHN: " Of course we' re not, so we' ll see what happens." |
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PAUL: " We' re not really, |
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but we' ve got people who are doing it for us. |
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And it' s a bit different from the hippie scene because people think |
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" Oh, they haven' t washed and they' ve got long hair. |
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Oh that' s naughty,' you know. |
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And people don' t communicate with them |
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because they don' t like the look of them, or something." |
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JOHN: " We' re gonna package peace in a new box." |
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PAUL: " We' re trying to get to, like, |
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the people who are sort of in control, and say you know, |
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' Come on. Straighten it out. Don' t mess it up.'" JOHN:?? |
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Ask if they can??. It doesn' t look as if they can. |
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Q: " You went to India and spent time with Maharishi |
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who has had great impact, you feel, on your whole outlook. |
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Could you decribe how he' s changed things for you?" |
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JOHN: " We sort of feel that Maharishi for us was a mistake, really. |
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Meditation we don' t think was a mistake. |
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But I think we had a false impression of Maharishi, |
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like people do of us, you know. |
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But what we do happens in public, so it' s a different scene slightly." |
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Q: " What was your original impression?" |
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JOHN: " We thought he was something other than he was." |
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PAUL: " We thought he was magic, you know, |
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because he' s got that kind of thing. |
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And he sort of, I dont know, the twinkle in the eye. |
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And you just think he..." |
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JOHN: " We were looking for it, |
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and probably superimposed it on him." |
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PAUL: " Yeah, it was just the right time anyway. |
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There were we, waiting for someone... |
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JOHN: " Waiting for a guru. He came.". PAUL:"... the great magic man to come. |
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And he came, you know. There he was and he was talking about it all. |
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And he had great answers, |
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' cuz he said ' You can sort yourself out,' |
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that you can calm yourself down just |
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by doing this very simple thing. |
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And it works, that bit of it. It really does do it, you know." |
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JOHN: " But the other bit He' s giving out recipes for something, |
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then he' s still creating the same kind of situations |
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which he' s giving out recipes to cure." |
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PAUL: " But it seems like the system is more important... |
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Q: " Sort of a touch of establishment in the Maharishi?" |
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JOHN: " Something, you know. We can' t...." |
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PAUL: " He' s okay, but the system is more important, y' know... |
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JOHN: Something taking over something... the idea of it. |
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JOHN: Some seems to ??? It always goes by the Budhha? bit. |
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If people watch Maharishi, or watch us, |
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they don' t think about the system |
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don' t think about what it' s about, you know. " |
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Q: " He got you to stop taking drugs." |
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JOHN: " No he didn' t. |
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We' d stopped taking drugs a couple of months before, when we met him. |
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And that was just sort of... |
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The newspapers said, ' Oh! Put it together, we got a title.' |
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But it' s just not true." |
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Q: " You feel that drugs are not necessary anymore for what you do?" |
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JOHN: " Uhh, I don' t know. |
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I' m not making any statements about what I' m going to do for the next 60 years or whatever it is, because I' ve no idea anymore. |
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You can never really know, but just have a vague goal." |
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PAUL: " Not at the moment, anyway." |
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JOHN: " It' s no use saying ' I will never take drugs' |
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or ' I WILL take drugs,' because you don' t know." |
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Q: " After the experiences that you' ve had, |
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do you think that young people who are your fans, |
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who idolize you, ought to try the same thing?" |
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JOHN: " No. We don' t give instructions on how to live your life. |
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The only thing we can do, because we' re in the public eye, |
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is to reflect what we do. |
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And they can judge for themselves what happens to us |
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with Maharishi, with drugs, with whatever we go on. |
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If they' re using us as a guideline. |
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And we can only try and do what' s right for us, |
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and therefore, we hope right for them." |
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PAUL: " Some fella said to me, |
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' Have you had LSD, Paul?' |
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And I said ' Yes.' And it was only ' cuz |
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I was going to just be honest with him. |
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There' s no other reason. |
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I didn' t want to spread it or anything, you know. |
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I' m not trying to do anything except answer his question. |
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But he happened to be a reporter, |
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and I happened to be a Beatle. |
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So it went into that, you know." |
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JOHN: " And it was his responsibility, |
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or his paper' s responsibility and his TV station." |
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PAUL: " That' s the thing He immediately said ' Oh, it' s this man' s responsibility. He' s just saying all the kids should take LSD.' |
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And I didn' t, you know. I just said, |
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' Yes I' ve taken it. Okay I own up,' you know." |
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Q: " Do you think the press distorts a great deal of what you say?" PAUL JOHN: Yes!" |
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JOHN: " I don' t think there' s anywhere, |
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any truth coming over about what' s happening at all." laughter |
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Q: " Generally, all the way across the board?" |
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JOHN: " There is no truth coming out, at all. PAUL: It' s not ??? |
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The only true thing about newspapers is the name of the newpaper. PAUL: I mean newspapers... |
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And I' m not saying that they are intentionally evil or anything, |
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it' s just they can' t control it. |
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And the system won' t allow truth to come out." PAUL: " Yeah." |
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JOHN: " So there' s something wrong with the system." |
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PAUL: " You know I mean, this |
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It' s a pretty sort of ordinary interview. |
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It' s pretty dull, you know. |
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Except for one or two little things, which will have been headlines..." |
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Q: " Of course, when someone watches television, they see it." PAUL: ... and that' s what the newspapers use to take them...??? |
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JOHN: " Television is a bit better, |
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but it' s still under the influence of the system |
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that doesn' t really allow truth to come out." |
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Q: " Well, now you' re saying what you think and people are seeing what you say." |
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JOHN: " Just for this moment, maybe. |
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If we are saying the truth as we know it. |
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but in general, I mean... |
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Are you saying that the truth is coming out all the time? |
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I don' t know. You think so? You try, yeah, PAUL: No, it' s probably not, I mean.... |
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you try but you' ve still got a system which restricts and inhibits people speaking their mind. |
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I mean, we can speak our mind now about these subjects. |
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But there will be limits imposed. And Rules." PAUL: " Mmmm." |
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JOHN: "... which are to safeguard something or other. |
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But safeguarding it prevents... it has a side effect. |
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And the choice is, where to draw the line." |
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PAUL: " It' s like, if you were to ask either of us a question that the answer would be obscene..." |
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JOHN: " There' s a censor." |
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PAUL: " There' s a limit, you know, to where you could go." |
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JOHN: " We couldn' t describe making love to somebody, |
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because the system doesn' t allow that. PAUL: But anyway that' s still not to do without truth. They... |
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You couldn' t just describe it. That' s where the system' s at." |
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Q: " One of the big controversies in your country had been recently |
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the whole question of racial integration and of cutting off immigration, |
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and of asking some of your nonwhites to go back home again. |
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You' ve been asked about this, undoubtedly." JOHN: " No." |
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Q: ' Do you think this is the kind of government policy that you want in your country?" |
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JOHN: " We sow what we reap, or whatever it is. PAUL: Mmm |
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And Britain is paying for what it did to all those countries. |
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And to say, ' Keep out,' is just barking in the garden, you know. |
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Because whatever is going to happen will happen like that." |
| [19:09.319] |
PAUL: " It was just some fella who said in a speech one day..." |
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JOHN: " He said what a lot of them thought." PAUL: He??? a few votes and y' know ?? |
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Q: " And a lot of people in Liverpool, and other places you know well, favor what he said, apparantly." |
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JOHN: " Sure." PAUL: " Yeah." |
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JOHN: " Because those people are all over the place. |
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That' s why the governments are in power." PAUL: " You know those people, they don' t know a thing. They just hate." |
| [19:27.321] |
JOHN: " Because they' re not told anything, as well." |
| [19:30.545] |
PAUL: " It' s people like this They say " I' m white and he' s black.' |
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Hate, hate, hate. They just hate him." |
| [19:38.571] |
JOHN: " And he' s not brought up any other way." |
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PAUL: " You know, they don' t know anything else than that, |
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so they' ve got to agree with this fella who says |
| [19:44.731] |
" We' ve got a dangerous situation here.'" |
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JOHN: " And they vote him in, and he just makes them feel alright. |
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And he tells them that ' You' re right! You know what' s happening. |
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You put me in power' |
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But what they don' t know is that he knows a bit more what' s going on. |
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That' s why he' s in power. |
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But he' s not going to tell them what' s happening because he wants to stay in power. |
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Because if they knew, they wouldn' t have put him in power, somebody else would be." |
| [20:06.782] |
PAUL: " But it' s not as bad in England as it is here." |
| [20:09.719] |
JOHN: " It probably is, but it' s just a different..." |
| [20:12.169] |
PAUL: " I don' t think it is." |
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Q: " You' re talking about racism?" |
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JOHN: " Well, it will be then." |
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PAUL: " I don' t think it' s as bad, just from what I' ve seen. |
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It might be. ' Cuz it' s hidden more in England, definitely, you know." |
| [20:24.495] |
JOHN: " That might be worse." |
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PAUL: " That might be worse, yeah. |
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But there' s just not the numbers going on." |
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JOHN: " Well, it' s just that. England is THAT big, |
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and America is THAT big." |
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PAUL: giggles, jokingly " It' s much worse in England, you know!" laughter |
| [20:40.077] |
Q: ???... Tell us about it. JOHN: giggling... terrible things... Oh no, he was joking then. Q: laughing " Really?!" JOHN: " He came ' round the circle." |
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Q: " This business of color, and young people, and people who follow you... This doesn' t have any significance in the mind of many of your young people?" |
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PAUL: " No, it' s good. Most people don' t... |
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It seems to be older people who really have got hangups." |
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JOHN: " Yes, and musicians and their vibrations don' t usually have this about what street you live on. |
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I mean, they get that scene sorted out as soon as they meet other musicians. Because it' s the music that counts. |
| [21:21.496] |
There' s no common denominator for society like music or whatever they' re going for." |
| [21:26.884] |
PAUL: " If someone can play guitar, it doesn' t matter what colored hands he uses." |
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JOHN: " But it also doesn' t matter for the carpenter and the bricklayer, and all that." |
| [21:35.382] |
PAUL: " But I mean, everyone knows that anyway. There' s only a few... I don' t know who these people are who..." |
| [21:43.985] |
JOHN: giggling " They' re the ones who vote for those people." |
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PAUL: giggles " You know, there' s just some funny people around who' re messing it up." |
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JOHN: " Lots of them." |
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PAUL: " Let' s find those people." |
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Q: " Of course, there' s people who don' t like the long hair..." |
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JOHN: " Well, we know those people are SICK! |
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And we might all be sick. |
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But their manifestations of sickness are pretty horrible, really. Frightening." |
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PAUL: " There was some thing in England where a kid went to the barbers and his Uncle said ' Go and get your hair cut.' |
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And so he went and he just had a little bit off, |
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' cuz he had it quite long and he liked it. |
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And he came back with just a bit off |
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So his Uncle, his guardian, |
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got annoyed and dragged him back and had it all off. |
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The kid just come with a little crewcut, |
| [22:27.532] |
and he was really broken up about it. |
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And the next morning they found him on the railway lines. |
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The kid has just sort of laid down with his crewcut. |
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chop You know, there' s no need for that." |
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JOHN: " To make haircuts that important is insanity." |
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Q: " Some people probably say to you, |
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' Why don' t you cut your hair short? |
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Are you just wearing it that way to be different?'" |
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PAUL: " No it' s just, ' Why don' t you wear yours long,' you know." |
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JOHN: " We know what we like in that respect. |
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We please ourselves. |
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And what' s it got to do with pause some man with one eye." laughter PAULL: It is not... there' s no... giggling |
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JOHN: giggling " You know that man with one eye that' s always sitting ' round the back!" laughter |
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JOHN: "... and asking ya why your hair is long!" Q: Yeah... But he' s always there... |
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PAUL: laughs " Yeah, but all those things about hair and color... You know, |
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all those things that hang people up. |
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There' s no need, ' cuz there' s no worry. |
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I mean, those are the least worrying things around." |
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JOHN: " But they' re the causes, aren' t they! PAUL: Yeah, they seem to be... One of the ?? causes. Dittle dittle rum bumble bumble?" |
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Q: " What about the Queen and royalty in Britain? Is that a hang up?" |
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JOHN: " It' s not a hang up, but I mean |
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Imagine being brought up like that for twothousand years. |
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You must be pretty freaky. |
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And they must have a hard time trying to be human beings. |
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I don' t know if any of them will ever make it, |
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' cuz I don' t know much about them. |
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But, you feel sorry for people like that. |
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' Cuz it' s like us, only worse! |
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And whether they know what' s going on or not is another subject." |
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PAUL: " They' ve probably got their own thing, you know, inside the castle." |
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JOHN: Mmm... Chest?. Paul: Giggling No they are just... |
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Q: Well, you' ve been inside the castle ??? the decorations... PAUL: No , I mean.... |
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JOHN: " That is a very strange life, isn' t it. |
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I mean, that' s another manifestation of craziness." |
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PAUL: " You don' t really TALK to her ' cuz she' s the Queen. |
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It' s like you don' t really TALK to President Johnson ever. |
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You just sort of shake hands and APPEAR to talk to him." |
| [24:19.149] |
JOHN: " And if they BELIEVE that they' re royal, that' s the joke. |
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You know, if they believe it..." |
| [24:23.899] |
PAUL: " It' s crazy." |
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JOHN: "... well they can carry on, you know. |
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Because it' s just very strange to think that you are royal." |
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PAUL: " They' re probably just great and human and have just got their own scene going, you know." |
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JOHN: " One or two of them, maybe... giggles over fivemillion." |
| [24:38.913] |
PAUL: " And it' s just a very difficult job." |
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Q: " Do you think it all should end?" |
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JOHN: " Well, I dont know about that. But it' s very costly." PAUL: laughs |
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JOHN: " It' s priorities really, isn' t it." |
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Q: " It' s been said that you have such a tremendous amount of influence. |
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You said yourself in that very controversial remark one time that you were more popular than Jesus, |
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and you had to correct the interpretation of that." JOHN: " Yeah." |
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PAUL: "' The Queen is freaky' isn' t a bad one." |
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Q: " Yeah, that' s not too bad, either. ??? never had bigger crowds? as you did |
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PAUL: jokingly " Another headline taken out of context yet again!" |
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Q: " The United States has been plagued by the war in Vietnam, |
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and the world has been concerned about it. |
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What are your views about the war?" |
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JOHN: " It' s another piece of insanity. |
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It' s all part of the same insane scene that' s going on. |
| [25:25.363] |
It' s just insane. It shouldn' t be going on. There' s nothing else for it... no reason, just insanity." |
| [25:32.873] |
PAUL: " You know, whoever' s right and whoever' s wrong, |
| [25:37.252] |
it' s still... the thing that' s going on there isn' t a good thing. It' s only that much willed?. |
| [25:44.637] |
A few bits of it does rough things going on. |
| [25:48.824] |
A few bits does worse things and a few bits is just insane. And that' s one of those bits. |
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Q: " Since you' re not diplomats, let me ask you to meddle in American politics as our concluding question. |
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We have a lot of candidates..." PAUL JOHN: " We don' t know much about it." |
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Q: " You know the names..." JOHN: " No." |
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Q: " You' ve heard the names..." |
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JOHN: " Not really." PAUL: jokingly Eisenhower?" Q: laughs JOHN: " We hear the sort of Kennedy, |
| [26:09.472] |
and we met a man called Green who sells plastic flowers to try and get people to vote for him, |
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which is a good sign of what he is, anyway. |
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But we don' t know much others." |
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PAUL: peace symbols " Doves." JOHN: " Doves and olives." laughter |
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JOHN: " Anything about that, my choice would be a dove. |
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But I mean, it might be an insane dove. |
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That' s the risk you gotta take." |
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Q: " You' re not ready to make a commitment?" |
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PAUL: " Yeah sure. Go on, ask some." |
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Q: " Would you pick a McCarthy, or a Kennedy?" JOHN: " A dove." |
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Q: " Humphrey, Nixon or Rockefeller?" JOHN: " A dove." |
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PAUL: " Yeah. You know, it' s just too hard ' cuz we don' t know what they are, those people. |
| [26:50.260] |
We see all their pictures in the paper, |
| [26:52.546] |
but we don' t know really what they' re doing. Do you?" |
| [26:55.547] |
Q: " What about Harold Wilson?" Merseyside member of Parliament and thencurrent Prime Minister |
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JOHN: " Yes! What' s HE doing?!" laughter |
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JOHN: " I mean, what are they all doing? That' s the point." |
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Q: " Let me just ask this one final question. |
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What do you do when you talk about the establishment, |
| [27:09.922] |
and you try to put something in it' s place... when you' re not satisfied with..." |
| [27:13.848] |
JOHN: " We' re all part of it as well. |
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I mean, the establishment is abstract and all that bit. |
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We' re all part of it. |
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So it' s just to change it anyway you can, if you think you can. |
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That' s all you can do." |
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Q: " Gentlemen, Thank you very much." |
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JOHN: " Pleasure." PAUL: " Thank you." |
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Q: John Lennon and Paul McCartney. |